the M3 Interview
M3, confessions of a reformed incel, the interview
The final episode of the 120 episode video series I called Mid’s Watch is coming next week. Over the years I’ve worked long and consistently in order to provide the condensed entirety of the Red Pill to anyone interested in Rule Zero: in search for male sexual strategy and the positive male identity. If you’ve followed it you come to know of names that have come and gone. Rian Stone, JackTenofHearts, Whinemoreplease, RuleZero Dad, Whisper, and many more pseudonyms. And the thing about repetition and a growing body of work is that a natural hierarchy starts to develop.
While I don’t want to spoil the ending, I will say that it’s important one doesn’t start treating the nameless or faceless pseudo accounts on the Red Pill as any kind of authority. It’s not a natural thing to do, we all like the idea of the best and the most consistent rising to the top based on merit. The thing is we have had many people over the years who treated internet points as if they were real, and it always, always ends up taking the persons contributions. The moment you make the iterative reputation a thing, people are hard wired to game that system.
Having said all that, this is an interview we had with a guy who called himself M3, or MuffManMike. If you’ve never heard of his name, then you’re either new here or never bothered to read the side bar like I tell everyone. It’s as close to canon as it gets, and Mike is the first guy on the list for the single guys. **Confessions of a Reformed Incel**
Why have an interview with a blogger, isn’t everything they write available for public consumption? While that is true, the age of Reddit for the Red Pill had a great condensing. If you weren’t able to blog your own expeirence you had a subreddit where you could share micro examples. It’s not enough experience to fill an entire blog every week, but it’s enough for 100,000 guys to fill up a subreddit by posting once or twice a year.
Even if you had a blog, it became the de facto place to discuss your articles. Were they effective, did they work, do people disagree and could it be replicated? The best way to find out was to have an author post his work there and wait for the engagement to filter in. A lot of the time it was just internet bloodsports, but over a long enough time, you’d see value filter in.
And it was an interesting filter that people enjoyed: what is this person like when he’s off script and improvising? Most of the people presented themselves the same as they did in their writing, while others betrayed their complete lack of game or skill; merely writing to pander and attract revenue sources. It was as good a frame test as we had at the time.
But now, the interview:
M3
Welcome Mike, we're happy to have you here. To start off, how does it feel to know your incel post is basically the gateway to our community? A big portion of our members have read and identified with you. What do you make of that?
I knew when i let it go to the interwebs someone out there would relate. I had no clue how many. My initial feeling of dread releasing it was abated when i saw just how many people went through the same, lesser or worse amounts than i had. Some emails i've received are excruciating to read.
I didn't write it for a pity party, i wrote it to give guys hope and that if they related to it, to recognize the mistakes and make the changes necessary. If this is the case with even one guy, it was worth any negative flack i got from ignorant unempathetic femenist trolls who enjoy misconstruing words and context.
And thank you for having me here. It's an honor.
Don’t worry about id dude, thanks for coming here. Your post was one of the first I read when my mind had already made the decision and swallowed the red pill; at that point, I had to seek out information and other people. And while I didn't go through anything nearly as bad as you had it, had I not read it and many other red pilled posts, I very well could have taken the wrong direction with the next years of my life. So I thank you very much for helping me avoid such a situation.
Even now, I have a friend 24 going on 25 who is an incel, similar story to yours in some respects. Do you have any advice on how to coach him to start making the changes, or do you think he has to find it on his own?
My only advice would be to get him engaged into something he can love and channel that also is viewed as attractive to women. I used working out as my catalyst. He could take up rock climbing, photography, anything, so long as he becomes adept and confident in it. I loved Roosh's post here:
This in a nutshell defines where to derive confidence from. He has to be confident about the world around him. Women will naturally gravitate towards.
A final thing.. he needs to surround himself with women simply for the sake of learning how to talk and be around them to act 'normal' without expectation. I'd suggest he start doing volunteer work. There's another bonus on the resume of love.
You know, your reply brings to mind a quote I heard long ago: Don't go looking for love. Do what you love and do it often. Love will find you there. Thought I'd share that with anyone who is living the life of an incel.
Pretty much. No body wants to be the 'sole' reason for someones existence. It's too much. It's the real meaning behind 'you gotta be happy with yourself first'. Do what you love instead of looking for love, it's a great line. The alternative is ending up being the male version of this (sorry, i had to.. it's funny as fuck)
You wrote a lot about sleeping with strippers. Do you still channel the strip club anger? Do you fight for the meek and want to support a return to traditional roles, or do you want to enjoy the decline and push yourself to become more and more of a cad or deviant?
No, the strip club anger is gone. This is one case where anger plays a role in getting you over the hump, but is not conducive to long term needs. Listen to Yoda. Anger leads down the dark path.
I still fight for the meek guys and recognize traditional roles is what allowed society to prosper. And I can understand why men end up as Beta's after being force fed lies and shit all their life. But I won't condone complacency or that being a good father is enough.
I am 'enjoying' the decline as much as anyone can. I have freedom and disposable income and ability to fraternize or not as I see fit and answer to no one. I do not welcome the coming demise of the west, but it is what it is.
And No, I don't enjoy caddish behavior. I won't throw it under a bus, but it's not in me to do. Dark Triad, without the asshole is what I strive for.
Authors note: At this point, word had gotten out from a feminist subreddit, and one annoying lesbian in particular derailed the interview:
You are still an incel writing fan fiction, aren’t you?
Short answer is No.
Long Answer follows.
I'm living as a celibate. The involuntary part is gone.
Although I haven't gone on a pussy slaying parade, should I so choose tomorrow, I think i have the skills to go out and get some through dark arts, stripper game, hookups through friends or simply punching at or below my weight online or in pubs for guaranteed pussy.
I have no such drive or desire. My last sexual run in was with a stripper over the Christmas break and it's what put my on my mental clusterfuck path that put me back in limbo. The sex was nothing glamorous or memorable on her part as I did most of the heavy lifting, and it left me cold and empty inside when I left her place and inhaled the cold air. This couldn't be my life could it? just to be used for a night by someone who doesn't even know me?
I'm not searching for the easy lay, or the hard lay by breaking down bitch shields either. I'm looking for what an old ex-friend once told me he wanted.
Cuddles and pancakes.
I'm exclusively filtering for women who will not fuck with my mind or my mojo, only add value to my life and not force me to put up with bratty bitchy entitled vapid solipsistic attitudes.
And of course, they need a body to match my own physique. It's only fair.
I'm looking for chicken soup for the soul. I've taken the tenants of game to become a better man and strive to be the best man I can be and match it up with a woman worthy of it. Whatever celibacy I endure now is of my own choosing because I'm looking for someone i connect with on a more meaningful level than just a wham bam. I won't discount an open opportunity if it arises, but I'm not going to toil for it either in this city. I've got better things to do. Like learn photography and the Polish language.
And when the braces come off, serious qualifications shall ensue.
You were used by the stripper? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahah. Holy fuck you are a sad pathetic little man. Seriously. good lord.
Ladies and gentlemen.. the future of our species. Enjoy the decline!
Thank you and good night, be sure to tip your hostess.
So you have no legitimate response to acting like men are better than women?
As far as I can tell, there's absolutely no reasoning given, other than women have hurt you in the past. Grow up, grow some balls, and stop acting like an ignorant child.
You continually fail to provide me with any evidence that I espouse such a view. None.
But you're prattling about how you're not a woman using words like a full stop feminist, making purely illogical fucktard statements and arguments. It leads me to believe you are a feminist. whether you’re male or female is irrelevant at this point.
Be silent. Keep your forked tongue behind your teeth. I did not pass through fire and death to bandy crooked words with a witless worm. I'm done with you. Spam and spew your bullshit all over this thread or all of reddit for I care. I've wasted enough precious time on your lunacy.
Author Note: a bit of a kerfuffle and some bans and deleted questions later, we manage to get things back on track for a finale
