The Milo Yiannopoulos Interview
Another of the archived Red Pill Interviews
Previously,
It’s been a while since I’ve done one of these. There’s a lot of former e-celebreties’ who have spent time in our little niche. Some are still relevant, most aren’t. I don’t know if Milo is still a thing. Occasionally you’ll see him sprout out of the ground and offer some tea about a current trending influencer. For some reason, people trust him with their most embarrassing personal information and he keeps telling us all.
But at the time, (2015) he was one of the first people talking about the red pill in a mainstream fashion. His start was in Breitbart, with his article on GamerGate, which has been called the first mainstream pushback of feminism in history.
So the gay Greek British man became a champion of masculinity, and he came down to say hello and answer questions. Enjoy.
For subscribers, I’ve added my own input at the end as a special just for you.
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I’m a journalist and broadcaster who writes about feminism (darling), men’s issues, gaming and whatever else grabs my interest. Looking forward to hearing from you. I’ll answer questions for the next hour or two, and check back regularly over the next day.
Good morning! I’ve been sitting quietly all this time listening to the media slam men and all this pro-woman bullshit, in fear that if I speak up I’ll get crushed by all these feminazis. It’s great to finally have a voice and someone to fight back.. keep up the good work!
I’m lucky. I’m social justice-proof. And I’m having a lot of fun. So you never need to worry about me disappearing. Every time they try to get me fired, I get a promotion. Every time they try to ban me from a university, more people get to hear about me and more people read my work. Every time they come for me, my power grows.
There’s one argument, at least, for never letting feminism die!
Thanks for coming to do this AMA here. Your work is often posted with great admiration here.
My question- What do you think about the cultural shift that TRP represents? Many consider us to be just a bunch of misogynists, including men’s rights supporters who would prefer not to have anything to do with us. What’s your take on TRP?
People who virtue-signal for a living (most journalists, most people on Twitter) can’t understand why a gay guy would spend his time sticking up for straight dudes. They are idiots. I write about this stuff because I see people being lied about and I don’t like it and because I think third-wave feminism is driving the sexes apart and I don’t think that’s good for the future of the species.
As for the misogyny stuff, well. I’ve never met a single MRA, PUA, Red Piller, you name it with 10% of the hatefulness, vitriol and spite of an Amanda Marcotte or Jessica Valenti. By and large the men I meet in places like this are smart, creative, funny, provocative and interesting.
I like this answer. We may say that women are like children but we’ve never said that 90% of them need to be exterminated. The goalposts of being “not racist/sexist/masculine” are always moving when leftists are in power. Where and When do you see the current censorship of any pro-male sentiment ending?
Moral responsibility, accusations of phobias, and statistical misinterpretation is often used against men in order to get them to believe in gender equality and other such nonsense. When confronted with these strategies used against them, men often cover their eyes and recite the party lines. Is there anything compelling that you have seen which can snap them out of this trance (Besides potential for sex/videogames) ?
Thanks for the kind words! I genuinely think we’re about to see a big shift away from crazy feminist progressivism. The public is starting to catch on now, and they are incensed by the lunacy and unfairness of what they see. Most women don’t hate men, and they are appalled by misandrist feminists who do.
There will always be a vocal minority of lunatics, but from my interactions with journalists and TV producers, the appetite for outrage-led, fact-free stories about confected feminist grievances is coming to an end. When that happens, men and arguments in favour of men will naturally begin to reassert themselves, because our views are based on facts, not feelings.
Milo, I have a younger brother who is gay and thanks to your work we have much more common ground to talk and connect over than previously. What would you say is the best way to unite those in the gay community with the Red Pillers of society against the atrocities being committed and what do you see as the future for both?
A simple examination of how unfair the tax system, healthcare, academia and the media are to men will demonstrate that gay men and Red Pillers have all the same priorities--and all the same enemies.
My husband (a conservative Democrat) and I have repeated disagreements about how dangerous for America the extreme PC climate on campuses and elsewhere. He contends that college youth have been this dumb and irritating since the 60’s and nobody really takes them seriously and they do the Left more harm than good by being so off putting. Please, in the words I can’t seem to find, explain why he’s wrong.
He’s not wrong--college kids have always been dumb. But there’s a difference today, and it’s that the administrators and staff relinquished their responsibility to stamp out the worst excesses some time ago, with the result that silly opinions that ought to have been challenged and matured out of on campus were allowed to flourish in a “safe space.”
These kids grew up and got jobs at Gawker and Buzzfeed still believing in the politics of the student union. Thus: we have a media that indulges in the same grievance-based, victimhood-obsessed, fact-free, feelings-driven garbage as you see on campuses.
Yet even this virtuous circle of moron reinforcement could be broken if faculty staff and college leaders were brave enough to say: “Don’t be so fucking stupid. You are not oppressed. The ‘safe space’ you are demanding is called America; it’s what enables you to speak your mind freely, however empty that mind might be. You are here to be challenged--get used to it. Now go back to class, or you’ll be expelled.”
In my view, any student demanding a trigger warning or safe space should be immediately expelled. They have demonstrated that they are incapable of completing the requirements of their degree.
This might be the best AMA response I have ever read.
I commend your taste and judgement.
After hearing you on Joe Rogan’s podcast, I got the impression that your homosexuality is based more on your attraction to the forbidden than it is based on your attraction to men. Curious if you think that’s the case. Beyond that, you seem very articulate and calm when you are speaking/debating- is that an inherent skill or something you learned?
I just don’t get mad. I wasn’t born with the “offence-taking” gene and I don’t get scared or nervous. I’m afraid that’s just something you have or you don’t.
I am a natural contrarian so I am drawn to all things forbidden by nature, and yes that does extend to my sex life. I think I put it best here..
At this point the conversation switches over to the various issues surrounding feminism
Do you have anything nice to say about Rebecca Reid?
She was very gracious and sweet after the debate, for someone who had lost so badly. And I think she will snap out of a lot of the sillier opinions she expresses. She’s smarter than some of the views she professes to hold.
She seemed to learn a lot from you. Funny how that works eh? 1Besides, I love you and your sacred hair. What is the current state of SJW stigma in the gaming industry, in your opinion? Are Devs and Publishers going to cave in or what exactly? Also is GamerGate winning this? Is there a way GamerGate (gamers) can help fight this cancer as of now? Example: Prioritize more ops and reinforce the notion of support for companies that stand up to this shit.
Publishers and developers throw bones to the crazies by offering, say, playable female leads. But they know who their customers are. I believe in the power of the free market here. I can’t tell you too much about the conversations I’ve had with publishers and publishers’ associations, but I’ll put it this way: they are by and large decent and reasonable people who know their customers are also decent and reasonable people, and very, very few of them buy in to crackpot feminist complaints about their products.
Oh, and they hate the games press just as much as the rest of us. Thank you for your judicious and wise assessment of my hair, which is the best hair.
How do you feel when feminists call gay men misogynistic? Do you consider it homophobic and thus yet another example of feminist hypocrisy?
And how would you address those on the right who are wary of homosexuality, as a sign of modern moral decline? Has the fear of mass immigration of perhaps less tolerant groups into the west caused a shift in the gay community’s political leanings?
How welcome do you think you would be in America’s conservative south, given your unique position on the political spectrum? Have you ever gone there, and if you have, what was your experience?
Gays aren’t misogynists, we just don’t always care about tiptoeing around women’s feelings--and when you think about it there’s no reason why we should. To some people, that amounts to “misogyny.”
Allowing mass Muslim immigration will have only one effect on the gay community: more conservative voters.
I have so many fans in Texas I can’t tell you. They call me the only fag they’d have a beer with. And I’ve had lots of email from people in places like Alabama and Tennessee, from parents of gay kids, saying they hope their kids turn out like me and not like what they see on television. I don’t think people in the South are bigoted. I just think they’re fed up with being lied about and lied to--and when a gay guy, even a flamboyant one, talks common sense, they celebrate him!
Reminds me of the quote by Thomas Sowell, “When people get used to preferential treatment, equal treatment seems like discrimination”
Despite the rise of the cultural libertarians online, here in the UK we still have a deeply engrained sexism within our political system that allows female politicians to openly state words to the effect of “fathers don’t really matter” (Harriet Harman) and openly laughing at the male suicide epidemic “because every day is international men’s day.” (Jess Phillips.) Naturally any male politician who said the female equivalent would have been sacked on the spot. It is truly galling to see Jess Phillips is still in post.
Given the way our political system works, that most politicians come from very privileged backgrounds, do you see them actually coming around to balance things out? From what I can tell, it’s in their favour to keep the focus on sexism and racism as a distraction from rising levels of inequality and poverty. (Particularly given the recent research from the LSE indicating that there is a glass floor for people born into wealthy and powerful backgrounds.) I’m not really convinced that there is a significant level of either sexism (against women at least) or racism in our society, and I’m also not convinced these people are genuinely as stupid as the SJWs who think there is. That’s my educated explanation of the situation. Would be interested in your thoughts.
Yes, there are plenty of horrible, sociopathic people openly laughing at serious health issues in public life--on both sides of the Atlantic. The flippancy with which feminists and female politicians dismiss the male suicide epidemic and IMD is chilling. And yes, I think it comes from privilege and ignorance.
Personally I want to see more irreverent working-class heroes charge into politics--or at least the people who stick up for common sense and science, which political and media elites no longer do.
Farage and Trump both perform this function in politics; people like Coulter, McInnes and me do so in media. And although you might not want any of these people running a country or editing a newspaper, respectively (I do, but I’m an anarchist--YMMV), what cultural libertarians and mischievous dissident thinkers are doing--and how terrifying they are to the Establishment--is hugely exciting.
We’re launching nukes into politically correct spaces and discourses because we recognise what you all recognise: that telling the truth has become a punishable offence.
What are your thoughts on MGTOW?
Men are told constantly by the media and by politicians that they are broken and evil--that men are the source of all the world’s ills.
Bullshit. If there’s a gender in crisis, it’s women. Women are in a total mess, thanks to feminism, asking for things they don’t really want and turning themselves into grotesque spectacles because someone told them their self-esteem shouldn’t be tied to their sex appeal. They end up more miserable than ever before.
The fact is, most women don’t deserve most men. If I were straight, I suspect I would be going my own way too.
Milo, yo. Why are sjw and feminists so very entitled? What generational shift has happened to make them think they are such victims and how can we prevent it in the next generation?
Millennials are the first entirely middle-class generation in history. None of them have ever wanted for anything, so they invent grievances and manufacture trauma. No one--not parents, teachers or professors--ever told them they were being ridiculous or challenged their assumptions, so they have grown up into foolish, poorly-educated and egotistical young adults spouting nonsense dogma about oppression.
Universities bear most of the responsibility for this. Safe space and trigger warning culture should be stamped out; free speech should be rigorously enforced. And space must be made for libertarian, classical liberal and right-wing professors, so students have access to a range of views.
I’ve never seen this notion summed up so eloquently and succinctly. Though if anyone could do so, it would be you. It is ancient history for me now but when I was in university, an unpleasant feminazi lecturer literally accused me of sexual harassments and reported me because on our university’s Facebook page I posted a Spiderman meme that said “I’m seriously about to slap a bitch” that wasn’t directed at anyone. When I tried to defend myself and justify myself she just threw the metaphorical book at me and basically implied I had no right to defend myself because I went against some vague, open to interpretation university rules that I was never made aware of. I ended up getting an 18 month caution attached to my university student record that left me too concerned to apply for jobs where they might look back at my university record. So my question is a tough one but what is the best way to deal with these dogmatic loonies that are happy to make your life a misery when you did something so minor just for a laugh?
Keep your head down at school and don’t get caught.
50 years down the road we’re going to look back on societies condition the way we currently look at Nazism. When it comes up people will just mutter, “well that was fucked up...” In your experience with Cassie from the Red Pill Documentary, would you still call her a feminist as you understand the label?
No, I don’t think so. She is of course entitled to describe herself however she likes. But I think feminism means something hateful and ugly now, and she’s neither of those things.
At my work place, we debate a lot to pass time, and a few days ago we came across gender equality. The women complained about “rape culture” but I didn’t know how to defend myself. What are some simple things that I can say to them that will prove them wrong about rape culture? Thanks in advance
Objecting to the term “rape culture” doesn’t mean you don’t believe rape happens.
College campuses are about the safest places for women to be.
There is no “rape culture” in the west--we don’t encourage rapists, we jail them.
If there is a rape culture, it is in the Muslim world. Why don’t feminists want to talk about that?
I would say that the only rape culture in the west is of men in prison. Rape is expected, and by significant portion of society seen as a “good thing” Which is the origin of the ‘rape culture’ term. Milo, the idea of a “Patriarchy” is oft repeated and shouted by third-wave feminists as the reason for innumerable injustices against women of all races, classes, and walks of life. But they never look at the reverse.
Do you think that feminism has created a “Matriarchy” which purposefully discriminates against men? and could you expand on that idea?
Society has always been a matriarchy. Female sexual power is the key to understanding all of history. What’s mystifying about feminists is that they want women to step down to equality, when men were perfectly happy providing for women, worshipping women and competing with each other for women’s attention.
All these patriarchy enthusiasts don’t want to hear it but it’s so obvious traditionalism was just well whipped nice guys tipping fedoras. What can the “average man” do to combat the rising tide of feminism / sjw extremism / insane policies and procedures in his everyday life? Bonus would be if these actions hopefully don’t end up with him being fired, expelled from school, or otherwise harmed.
Don’t marry crazies. Reward women who don’t sign up to the lunacy with your affections and attention. Because success is the best revenge, and the lonelier and unhappier and more miserable these bonkers third-wave cat ladies become, the more they will be forced to re-evaluate their terrible life choices.
Nah, they’ll double down every time. But at least their bitter words fade into irrelevance. You’ve obviously got a lot of fans here, but what are your personal opinions on TheRedPill? Are there specific aspects of it that you like or dislike?
I dislike that no one has challenged me on the circumcision stuff yet!
No real need to ask as you’ve been clear you like them cut for purely personal reasons. And you know what, you’re free to have your preference.
That being said, from a purely men’s rights perspective I think everyone can agree boys should be entitled to the same rights as girls in this subject. If guys want to get cut once they’re older, then the should be allowed to. However, babies who don’t have any say in the matter, regardless of gender, shouldn’t be messed with.
I would have to agree with this.
So as much as I love your work, you’ve said that your success is based on your inclusiveness, and willingness to embrace those who are different from you, ie gaming/nerd culture. Aren’t you being counterproductive when you say that Pokemon or Star Wars fans are losers who should feel bad? Same thing with Internet atheists; you’re alienating a segment of the audience when you’ve said that that’s not what you’re about.
I credit my readers with the sensitivity, intelligence and sense of humour to recognise when I am playing with them. There’s a world of difference between affectionate trolling between comrades--taunting is how men bond, after all--and the hateful invective of the progressive Left. Don’t you think?
In other words; it’s just harsh bantz. It seems that culture really started shifting after Obama came into office, with everything becoming super PC around 2008. Do you think another Republican in office would swing things back in the other direction?
Only Trump can save America.2
Do you think he has a realistic possibility of winning? Better yet, how to fight again feminism without ruining your career prospects?
For most people, the answer is: don’t try. At least not yet. It’s too soon. Let people like me clear the way first. We’re winning, and we’re pushing the boundaries of what it’s acceptable to say, and before long you’ll be able to speak more freely too. The best way you can help at the moment is support the work of those you think are pushing in the right direction.
“Taking the blows.” Heh heh. You recently wrote about hormone based birth control. Isn’t pumping women full of hormones which influence their bodies and their minds poisoning them? Should hormone based birth control be reclassified as a heavy drug like heroine (or like steroids/ testosterone is for men)? What about doctors subscribing the pill to 14 year old girls?
Yes
Yes
It’s wrong
But given that women don’t exactly have as complete control as men do over their bodies, would you relent on the prescription? It’s also used in irregular and painful bleeding. Ie-birth control pills for nonbirth control reasons.
One of the TRP moderators stepped in on this one
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What you are getting into are some of the reasons why I think hormonal birth control should be restricted to married women: it actually changes mate selection.
While I’ve known/realized the divorce problems inherent to the pill, I hadn’t considered the genetic incompatibility leading to more heritable diseases angle. It’s a definite possibility, but also possible that the pill leading to later and later first births is also causing that problem. Might even be both leading to the increases in those disorders.
Hey Milo. Do you think that false rape accusations are more common than society and feminists like to make out? I was falsely accused of rape and the charges were dropped. I had to go to through 6 months of unnecessary stressing though. I think it’s ridiculous how a woman can claim rape and potentially ruin a mans life just because she had sex that she regretted, wants to get revenge on her partner, wants to cover up infidelity..etc. There’s a forum dedicated entirely to false rape accusations and it seems like it’s a common occurrence. The worst part is that women rarely get prosecuted for making false allegations.
It happens all the time. You should see my inbox.
I am ex state law enforcement, and when I brought this up with the sex crimes squad they told me six out of ten rape claims are false. My respect for them grew tremendously, because they knew it was a problem and handled things with dignity.
You’ve recently come to the defense of gamers/GamerGate through your writing, your twitter, at SPJ, and even met many of them at various meetups. What is your honest, overall sense of the gamers that you have engaged with? Is there a stark difference between the gamers you interact with on twitter vs the ones you have met with in real life? If your answer is net-favorable, why do you think this group has become so maligned by the rest of society, and what if anything do they need to do differently to gain more respect from the broader public?
Gamers have no social capital. The Left hates them and lies and says games make us all sexist. The Right hates them and lies and says they make us violent. So it’s an easy group to malign.
But, in my experience, gamers are some of the most witty, creative, compassionate and fascinating people I’ve ever met. I love them.
I know this is more on gender politics but I actually found you through your stance on multiculturalism. What are your views on free speech in the UK (or what passes as free speech anyway) when it comes to the potential radicalisation of young muslims? Do you think people like Anjem Choudary should be allowed to operate in this country and if not how does that fit in with your cultural libertarian views of unquestioned free speech?
If I were being entirely consistent I would have to say that yes, he should be allowed to speak out in the open, to have his views challenged and have his hateful and absurd opinions exposed to ridicule and dissection. Better that, I think, than having him toiling silently in a mosque somewhere, poisoning young minds one by one. Perhaps we should force him to speak in the open!
Appreciate you being straightforward - always curious to see if people will defend a principle even while vehemently disagreeing with how it’s being used. Christina Hoff Sommers, Joe Rogan, Donald Trump.
Shag, marry, kill.
You can’t ask me to kill any of these people. But if my life depended on it... I’d shag Rogan, marry Trump, and... wait, no, I can’t, I’m sorry.
It’s great to see somebody out there in the media standing up for common sense, I think that your rise in popularity can be attributed to your timing. The western world has been obsessed with political correctness and leftist nonsense for years, but I think it’s only within the last 1 or 2 years that we’ve started to become submissive to acceptance, correctness and other forms of essential bullying.
My question to you is this, I’ve always wondered how you made your money, was it through venture capitalism and wise investing, pure profit from your previous websites and businesses or was it shameless inheritance? My confidence in your ability is to save us from a social distopia will be unwavered by whatever answer you give.
I prefer not to talk about my private financial affairs, but you can rest assured that no one can live like I do on a journalist’s salary. So finish your college degrees and get proper jobs in engineering!
What do you think the long term impact of gay marriage being legalized in the US as heterosexual marriages (largely initiated by men) are declining and at an all time low will be on marriage laws in general?
Do you think economic and technological factors like women in the workforce and no fault divorces and birth control mostly cause modern sexual dynamics, or are simply enablers of what could exist on its own with cultural forces like third wave feminism? Is it possible for sexual norms and marriage to change, absent changes in birth control availability and female workforce participation in your opinion?
It’s interesting that homosexuals are flocking to traditional institutions while heterosexuals are abandoning them. See, we always know best!
I’ve dabbled in journalism in university, and have written a couple of very controversial articles that have sometimes earned the ire of my friends and the editorial staff. Of course, Third Wave Feminism is a completely different beast when it comes to controversy. A lot like Islam, some people argue that some tenets of the ideology are not open for debate.
What would your advice be for someone who wants to inject fresh thinking and add to the debate while still being successful in this PC-dominant world? (i.e.: How can I speak to the mainstream about my not-so-mainstream opinions without being relegated to the fringe?)
Get a real job and do it as a hobby. Don’t make journalism your life. Focus on being smart, successful and looking after your mind and body. Be happy. Then you can share your opinions from a place of security--and with a job they can’t take away from you.
Proud to be one of your #5000. I have so many possible questions, but will keep it relative Red Pill focused as that’s where we are.
Within the gay community, behind the scenes, how may gays are actually into the idea of getting married, raising (some other woman’s) children? Following that, I know that you’ve said gay white men are being pushed towards the oppressor category, but is it also true that some gays (besides you) want out of the whole progressive LGBT schema, because that vision of being gay is not the way they perceive it?
I am in RCIA, and becoming Catholic. I’ve been particularly interested in your rants against atheism. I respect the way you see your homosexuality as a burden. My parallel would be that I’m not gay, but I want to be Catholic, yet I love fucking many bitches without marrying them. So, no need to compare our respective missing of the mark regarding Catholic faith. But I am just curious, if it’s not too personal, how you see yourself balancing the two, and furthermore, doing so in public, where if they don’t hate you for being Catholic, they hate you for being a gay who’s Catholic and not a church hater.
You say you have Hollywood friends who are secretly conservative, pro-Trump, anti-PC, anti-feminist, etc. I have a conservative-oriented screenplay I’m shopping around of a hedonist exploring religion. Another one I’m writing that is a brilliant but subtle satire of feminists handing their country over to Islamists. When do you see the climate coming around that conservative artists can come out with stuff like this, and not another fucking Jim Haynes “Carol” or vehemently pro-abortion movies, like at least 3 that have come out in the last 18 months?
Hello #5000 elite. Yes, gays are natural cultural libertarians and my hunch is that the majority want out. I want the wholesale dissolution of the LGBT lobby. It’s meaningless and irrelevant and most of its figureheads are working entirely against our interests.
I answered this I think elsewhere today, so I’m going to point you there. Welcome to the best religion.
“Another one I’m writing that is a brilliant but subtle satire” -- you sound like me! I’d love to read them. Most likely you’ll struggle getting them produced, though.
Does it make sense to push for All-Male colleges in America? It seems boys education is slipping so bad that the only jolt our society would need to start stemming the tide is for the need for all boys schools. The reasoning would be simple : K-12 is failing and not producing enough college ready boys that All-Boys colleges are needed in the interim.
Men do better in co-ed schools. Only girls do better on their own. So no. And in any case, you’re only shielding boys from what happens at college and in the workplace... better they know now.
In your experience, why is the young men’s societal views on a easily-perceivable RP principle like the prerequisite of attractiveness for sexual interest so... contradictory and conflicting?
The contradiction you have identified arises from the difference between what women say they want and what they actually want.
Also where do you think a major reaction against the European political elites destructive immigration policies will take place? England, France, Germany or Sweden?
I thought Sweden until a few months ago, but now it’s very clear that Germany is going to rise up.3
I’m going to take a break for a bit, but I’ll check in with you all later. Some brilliant contributions here--and not just from me! Hope it’s been enjoyable for you all so far. As I say, I’ll check in again in a bit so feel free to keep asking questions.
